tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3526861933315009124.post8465922218827542683..comments2023-11-05T01:31:45.483-08:00Comments on Invisible Woman.....Black Cinema At LARGE: In Praise Of Precious....Invisible Womanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08299734445263175345noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3526861933315009124.post-56429551895935249612016-09-29T14:57:23.911-07:002016-09-29T14:57:23.911-07:00Did you know you can shorten your urls with BCVC a...Did you know you can shorten your urls with <b><a href="http://shortener.syntaxlinks.com/r/BCVC" rel="nofollow">BCVC</a></b> and <b>make cash for every click on</b> your shortened links.Bloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07287821785570247118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3526861933315009124.post-26156718696522727592009-12-21T20:29:24.350-08:002009-12-21T20:29:24.350-08:00@wonderman: of course you do...great minds think a...@wonderman: of course you do...great minds think alike, lol :-)<br /><br />@UT: thanks :-)<br /><br />about the oprah and tyler thing...just like i was saying to sergio, i was very, very disappointed to have them involved, but if it got some people in the seats, well i guess.Invisible Womanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08299734445263175345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3526861933315009124.post-55336388477451141672009-12-16T13:53:34.642-08:002009-12-16T13:53:34.642-08:00I'd say I appreciated the book more than the m...I'd say I appreciated the book more than the movie. However, I think Lee Daniels did a fine job in bringing this to the screen. <br /><br />I know some people think Oprah and Perry were apart of the project from jump, and is a big reason why many people I know attended. However, I had to school them and make them aware that they didn't come around this project until after the fact. I'm not taking anything away from the movie. I just wish that more films like this could be made. Not necessarily all the struggle and what not, but the acting, directing and writing. <br /><br />Excellent movie. Excellent review.Urban Thoughthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11846671502291683191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3526861933315009124.post-4968128214522423962009-12-11T11:16:27.802-08:002009-12-11T11:16:27.802-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Valhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15297338462983613290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3526861933315009124.post-83155946109152142862009-12-10T17:43:16.733-08:002009-12-10T17:43:16.733-08:00I totally agree with youI totally agree with youWonder Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16723949771552274515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3526861933315009124.post-67710117945465343562009-12-08T06:27:10.771-08:002009-12-08T06:27:10.771-08:00@camille: you know i respect your opinion in a hug...@camille: you know i respect your opinion in a huge way, and always enjoy your comments, but this time i think we will have to agree to disagree.<br /><br />with love of course :-)Invisible Womanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08299734445263175345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3526861933315009124.post-51684610847852267772009-12-08T00:15:51.531-08:002009-12-08T00:15:51.531-08:00The point is we can't look at black film the s...The point is we can't look at black film the same way we look at white (mainstream) films. we are in different boats, hence this discussion, hence this awesome website. <br /><br />so, considering the support for black films is so paltry, why squander our window of opportunity with a tired (and frankly degrading) story like Precious when so many fresh and new ones have yet been heard?Camille Aceyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08088945478653638179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3526861933315009124.post-71150186079451098442009-12-08T00:11:31.020-08:002009-12-08T00:11:31.020-08:00IW said "@chandra: i get what you are saying,...IW said "@chandra: i get what you are saying, for sure...but what bothers me the most is that every time a Black film comes out, it seems it must be all things to all people. does any other culture have that burden in film?" <br /><br />I don't think it has to be "all things to all people" but could we please stop having "more of the same about the same people". While I liked the movie more than I thought I would, in the final estimation this is ultimately The Color Purple redux about a bunch of tragic black people. I mean this movie seems to have set out to win the Tragedy Olympics with the amount of downright desicable things that happen to this character. The story was so tragic in fact that in the end it came out so farcical and ridiculously over the top that it seemed to just run out of air, (see Mo'nique's final scene in which she just sputtersout in an overacted heap of blaxploitation mess). <br /><br />I mean "I'm Through With White Girls" and "Medicine for Melancholy" were flawed but ultimately well-meaning, funny, cute, and quirky slice of life films. Don't we deserve films like that too? Where is our black 500 Days of Summer or quirky Nick Hornby-like tome to balance out the Preciouses? Maybe it's time for black filmmakers and actors to swing the pendulum away from tragic biopics, tragic dramas, and bufooon comedies. There are other genres...how about thrillers? Period pieces? mystery? sci fi? (I'd love to see a Martha Washington film ....just as long as Rosario Dawson isn't Martha, ahem).<br /><br />The point is that a movie like Precious unfortunately does not pave the way for Hollywood to say "Hey Lee Daniels, hey Tyler Perry, (or even hey Barry Jenkins or Kasi Lemmons), why don't you film something <i>totally different</i>? Why don't you do something that makes black people look human and non stereotypical?" Frankly movies like Precious just give fodder to Hollywood execs to start hunting for the next more tragic or foolish black characters to prop up for the world's tears and amusement.Camille Aceyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08088945478653638179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3526861933315009124.post-19267276510997926072009-12-07T15:47:55.001-08:002009-12-07T15:47:55.001-08:00I have not seen the movie yet (I don't go to m...I have not seen the movie yet (I don't go to movies often,m too many fools!). But I am waiting for it to hit DVD - And I sure as hell don't mean bootleg, I mean the real thing! But in the mean time the book "Push" is on my Christmas list.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02537995627507688916noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3526861933315009124.post-67169397249764405422009-12-07T11:28:28.672-08:002009-12-07T11:28:28.672-08:00@keith: thank you so much...i love having you visi...@keith: thank you so much...i love having you visit my blog :-)<br /><br />@chandra: i get what you are saying, for sure...but what bothers me the most is that every time a Black film comes out, it seems it must be all things to all people. does any other culture have that burden in film?<br /><br />@rippa: you better! lolInvisible Womanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08299734445263175345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3526861933315009124.post-3290867975037680622009-12-07T11:25:49.471-08:002009-12-07T11:25:49.471-08:00@marvalus: see my comment to arnetta...thanks for ...@marvalus: see my comment to arnetta...thanks for the complimet--i'm so glad when you like something :-)<br /><br />@yobachi: did you see it?<br /><br />the backlash is so stupid i barely want to bring it up...some dumbass BS about how whites will think this represents all blacks, how all the light people were good and the dark ones were bad (which was wholly inaccurate, btw) just some dumb sh*t.<br /><br />@raina: thanks! what did you think of it?<br /><br />@keli: thanks--why can't we embrace it like YT? please report back and let me know what you think when you see it--i think you'll love it.Invisible Womanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08299734445263175345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3526861933315009124.post-57290538638479011532009-12-07T11:20:05.553-08:002009-12-07T11:20:05.553-08:00@MLM: if I read the book, maybe i would have a dif...@MLM: if I read the book, maybe i would have a different view, i don't know...all i know is what i saw.<br /><br />@uglyblackjohn: no way! that is so very sad--you can watch it online, but you definitely did not hear it from me....<br /><br />@slc: i feel the same...so what if its not perfect? would you rather see this or "janky producers" with ice cube and bow-wow?<br /><br />@keturahsmy: ummm...huh?Invisible Womanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08299734445263175345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3526861933315009124.post-13955802446870914102009-12-07T11:16:17.186-08:002009-12-07T11:16:17.186-08:00@villager: it is ALWAYS nice to see your thoughts ...@villager: it is ALWAYS nice to see your thoughts here, my brethren :-)<br /><br />@ms Lady: thanks you so much--saw your thoughts on rippas blog--glad we have the same brown eyed view<br /><br />@lenox ave: gonna visit your blog--really, really hope you post your thoughts about it<br /><br />@arnetta: "Why are we (and I'm using that term loosely here) gulping down the camel and straining out the gnat?"<br /><br />EXACTLY!Invisible Womanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08299734445263175345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3526861933315009124.post-21494842273461509522009-12-07T08:24:52.487-08:002009-12-07T08:24:52.487-08:00Now you know I'll be staying on your to blog, ...Now you know I'll be staying on your to blog, right?<br /><br />lolRiPPahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08876723972974044402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3526861933315009124.post-47808074114466123382009-12-04T14:31:27.626-08:002009-12-04T14:31:27.626-08:00Hey! Just wanted to kick in my two cents. When it ...Hey! Just wanted to kick in my two cents. When it comes to Black films, my argument has been and will always be about one thing: B-A-L-A-N-C-E. That's why I can deal with the book, but can't stand the film. The book exists in a world where there's a vast array of black books. But the movie contributes to the 'woe is me cause I'm black and po' class. You see, Boyz in Da Hood sparked an all and out Hood phenomenon that we just can't seem to get away from. At least, those flicks are straight to DVD now...uhm, wait, there was Hustle and Flow not too long ago, wasn't it? Ok, I digress. There's a swarm of black directors and screenplay writers that would LOVE a greenlight, but somehow 'Precious' made it. Can't say I dig that. I'm not asking for fairy tales in black face and understandably, everything black ain't good. I'm saying that before a film is made that could potentially warp an outsider's perception of Black life, can we get ALL of black life out here in plain view first? As for the rest of those films you named at the bottom of your post, I ain't going to see them either. Toodles! :-)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05261057737216454936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3526861933315009124.post-60510147424426049462009-12-01T18:58:04.734-08:002009-12-01T18:58:04.734-08:00Great post on this film. I've really been wan...Great post on this film. I've really been wanting to see this one. I think it looks like an amazing film. It was cool to see your thoughts on it.Keithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14832710800680256206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3526861933315009124.post-72544553072449808642009-12-01T11:13:26.316-08:002009-12-01T11:13:26.316-08:00I feel the same way you do sergio, for sure. i was...I feel the same way you do sergio, for sure. i was actually very disheartened to see their names attached, and really wished it hadn't happened. i wanted it to stand on its own.<br /><br />unfortunately, i know thats why some people went to go see it, cause their names were attached...baby steps, i guess, but i was never thrilled about it in any way :-(Invisible Womanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08299734445263175345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3526861933315009124.post-15545500217940225052009-12-01T09:16:50.718-08:002009-12-01T09:16:50.718-08:00And I must add that my comments about who put up t...And I must add that my comments about who put up the money weren't addressed really to you IW I know you know that story but to people out there who believe that TP and Oprah made the film and oput up the money. In fact I'm sure there are some who think Perry directed the film as well despite Lee Daniels name on the film. They hear Tyler's name and think he can walk on waterSergiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12477611506706892253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3526861933315009124.post-17618358834773812092009-12-01T09:13:02.096-08:002009-12-01T09:13:02.096-08:00But that begs the question, could the film have su...But that begs the question, could the film have succeeded on its own without their names attached? I aruge that it could have. The word of mouth was really strong on the film in the industry long before Lionsgate bought them on. <br /><br />And personally if I made a film I wouldn't want their names attached to anything I do. I run a class operation.Sergiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12477611506706892253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3526861933315009124.post-81907343116772301282009-12-01T09:09:46.396-08:002009-12-01T09:09:46.396-08:00@sergio: not talking money, just clout--knew the w...@sergio: not talking money, just clout--knew the whole story already about the money issueInvisible Womanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08299734445263175345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3526861933315009124.post-9252176163935730302009-12-01T08:03:48.076-08:002009-12-01T08:03:48.076-08:00Wait hold it. One more time Tyler Perry and Oprah ...Wait hold it. One more time Tyler Perry and Oprah DID NOT put up any money to make Precious. They had no involvement with the film during production. For all we know Lee Daniels might have even approached them first about putting up the money but was rebuffed. Lionsgate, after they bought the distrib rights for the film at Sundance Film Festival, bought them on board as executive producers as a selling tool. Using their names to promote the film to an audience they might have resisted seeing the film.<br /><br />The financing came from a wealthy white couple based in Colorado, the Magnesses. We have told their story about them and putting up the money for Precious on Shadow And Act both here:<br /><br />http://www.shadowandact.com/?p=10163<br /><br />And here:<br /><br />http://www.shadowandact.com/?p=12576Sergiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12477611506706892253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3526861933315009124.post-34060406654139735192009-12-01T05:32:46.880-08:002009-12-01T05:32:46.880-08:00Bravo!
We at times are critical of our own, just ...Bravo!<br /><br />We at times are critical of our own, just because complaining has become habitual for us...<br /><br />I have had a few white movie goers tell me how awesome it was, only to hear blacks say the movie foster stereotypes...<br /><br />but you are right, abuse...incest...poverty...it's universal. And we are so worried about not airing our dirty laundry, that we keep our pain hidden, and these cycles continue within our community. <br /><br />I have not gotten around to seeing this film, but I plan too!Kelihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12055443001032838205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3526861933315009124.post-74303174074046321552009-11-30T16:24:14.342-08:002009-11-30T16:24:14.342-08:00Excellent Post! I wanted to go see Precious even b...Excellent Post! I wanted to go see Precious even before it came out. I didn't care about what people were saying. I wanted to see it.RainaHavockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02019099371458545624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3526861933315009124.post-19065074212919864412009-11-30T14:12:12.248-08:002009-11-30T14:12:12.248-08:00Very good treatment of the film. I'm glad you ...Very good treatment of the film. I'm glad you addressed the points you did. <br /><br />What is the basis of the don't see Precious backlash, I wasn't even familiar that it was happening? <br /><br />I still haven't seen the film, but plan to make an effort to see it this weekend with this chick who wants to go.Yobachihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16151249328042613857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3526861933315009124.post-35717511218869387202009-11-30T13:54:33.296-08:002009-11-30T13:54:33.296-08:00You have outdone yourself with this one, IW...
Wh...You have outdone yourself with this one, IW...<br /><br />Why can't we just view Precious and see the beauty in it? Of it? Instead, we want to chip away at inconsequential elements that distract from the story.Marvalushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17351017369178485617noreply@blogger.com